31 May 2012, Posted by yohami in conversations,inner game, 16 Comments.
Inferiority Complex, Or, When You’re In Pain, Go To The Source.
Mark Mason talks about inferiority feelings. I cosign.
Still, the problem is not about feeling inferior. Not on it’s own.
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Feeling inferior / superior goes by hand with winning / losing. If you think you did a fantastic job but when the results come you’re last on the chain, you’re to feel inferior. That, if you have any sanity. Or if you came on top, or if you won the match, you’re going to feel confident and dominant.
If you have any sanity your feelings correlate with reality.
The thing is not what you feel but where does that push you. Like Mark said. What then? what do you do with it?
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So how about when the feeling is painful.
Say, your hand is burning on the fire. Now what? do you suppress the pain? take painkillers? block it? ignore it? turn out the music really loud? get distracted? buy ice, to compensate for the third grade burns that are appearing on your skin? apply make up? do you come up with a justification that makes it OK for you to get burned? as a payout for stuff you have committed? or not? price to pay? or you blame it on someone else, or do you personalize the situation, like, the fire is EVIL and wants to HURT you? or maybe end up hating your own skin because it hurts? or you deny the whole thing? or do you chop your arm out? do you create an imaginary bitch to put your pain on? a deity? an amicable doormat? do you split yourself? whine so you get rescued? hate, because your designated rescuer doesnt care enough? what does that pain make you do? what do you do?
And then how about if the feeling is pleasurable? do you hold it? rationalize it? say you deserve it? integrate it firmly with your ego? protect it behind walls? make yourself a costume with it? do you pile it up, to make a nice cushion that distracts you from your other hand, that is burning on the fire? use it as compensation? condition yourself to it as a reward of other stuff you force yourself to go trough? keep building on top of it?
See? the more you do and retain and build structures, the more the whole thing is prone to collapse. The more you hold to your feelings, the more you lose control over reality. The might produce stupid shit like, you winning and feeling miserable, or you losing and feeling good about it, or you sabotaging or getting stuck, or old emotional states that always come back like ghosts, or, never being really, truly “here”, because you lost the emotional awareness that otherwise would tell you how your really feel, so you can’t handle the relationship between yourself and the reality.
Let’s say that again.
Doing stupid ego stuff with your feelings prevents you from developing an intelligence that tells you how you really feel.
If you dont know how you really feel, you can’t solve this.
Sorry. Affirmations can’t replace intelligence.
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So. Hand is burning? How about, retiring your hand from the flame. Then learning how to handle the stuff so you dont get burned. That, without hating the fire nor all of your mental gymnastics to camouflage and justify what didn’t need a justification.
Or some event caused pleasure? how about learning how to get there once and again, without pretending that such state is an intrinsic part of yourself. One you depend on and are addicted to.
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For most people… I think we’re taught this stuff. Most people just reject the undesired feelings, including the inferiority ones. Most people build structures to compensate, instead of moving and fixing and changing and taking charge of the situation that is causing the feeling. And the overall body gets sicker and sicker, and the original problem gets worse with every layer of bullshit that is placed on top of it, and the higher the structure, the more wicked and twisted it gets.
And pleasure receives the same treatment.
So. How to get better? Leave the fucking feelings alone. Let them be. Free them. Let them take charge. Let them go wherever they will go. No place is too high, and no place is too low.
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Feelings are there for a reason. Embrace them. Like Shari would say. Honor your feelings. All of them. The more you feel, the more you discern, the wiser your emotional body gets, the more you gain emotional intelligence, the better you’ll perform. Yes. Even if all you feel is pain.
But when you’re in pain, go to the source.
Change reality.
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May 31, 2012 11:23 am
Emma the Emo
That.. sounds very profound, although I didn’t quite grasp it. I see what you are saying is that we should never repress our feelings and rationalize why they are there and make it about our identity. This seems like something I’ve understood a few years ago – that feelings are just feelings, they are like any physical state. They sometimes have a real life cause, and sometimes they are just hormones/chemicals in your brain. You just deal with them (like the way you’d deal with a burnt hand) and find out how to avoid the same pain (like hodling the hand away from fire). The hard part is find out why you’re feeling what you’re feeling, it might not always be possible.
May 31, 2012 6:56 pm
yohami
Hah, I get that a lot.
Yeah. Here’s what compliments it http://yohami.com/blog/2012/05/13/bro-im-still-digesting-this-stuff/
Seems like repressing / numbing your emotions and the cope mechanism we use to deal with stress… form patterns. Well. We know that. Then the patterns get stuck and everything looks like a nail because you have a hammer = you end up repeating the same pattern once and again. On the other hand you dont develop the intelligence to handle situations, and you’re always off reality because you approach it from the same angle all over again. No surprises so far.
The more interesting part right now, for me, is how to solve that. The solution seems to be to let the original repressed feelings go. But not go so they leave you, but let go so they take over you. Facing your demons, but with a hug and not with a sword. And then taking your demon to dinner and breakfast and bring it to the present.
Or, shorter, feeling all the emotions, even the dark and bad, and even the good ones, and everything you’re resisting. When that portion unblocks, it also unblocks all the structure’s and ego that you had in place to cope with all of that. So you gain mobility.
Check therawness.com and gettinbetter.com and a book called “there’s such thing as a negative emotion”.
June 01 2012 09:52 am
Emma the Emo
Seems I've been saying something similar, only less elegantly :D. I also noticed how other people around me think negative emotions as evil and insane somehow. Like if you have them, you got a problem. or you're bad. It must be a Norway thing. Because how could anyone dislike anything when they are living in world's richest country?
June 04 2012 02:19 am
yohami
Looking at pics of Norway. Damn beautiful. Why are you miserable again?
September 21 2012 06:23 am
Liam
Facing your demons, but with a hug and not with a sword.
I noticed this with meditation,when i was compassionate towards my feelingthey went away and for 2 weeks,life was bliss.....then stopped meditating and the bad shit came back,but when i went back to meditation i tried to force the feeling to go with a sword if you will and it was no where near as effective
June 28 2012 07:59 am
Emma the Emo
Not miserable :) But was once after my parents' divorce. Mom married a beta provider and he was already burned by other women and divorced, making him very unreasonable and suspicious. He hated me for some reason.
May 31, 2012 6:57 pm
yohami
“The hard part is find out why you’re feeling what you’re feeling, it might not always be possible.”
That’s hard, because you got the first emotional imprints before you were able to reason. So it’s easier to just go down there with feelings than with reason. There’s no (rational) memory map, but there’s an emotional one.
May 31, 2012 8:08 pm
Leap of a Beta
I think the hard part is that society has told men that any emotions are bad, eeeeeeeevil things. That to be masculine is to be stoic. Unless you’re talking to a woman, especially a significant other, than you have to put away all rationalization, supplicate yourself, and get in touch with those emotions while at her feet.
So most men, myself included, have been trained to either ignore emotions or only relate to the ones that matter to women. I didn’t personally go all the way with that, though I’m unsure if that was a choice due to art or me drawing a line and telling society to fuck off.
Woe to the man who gets in touch with his passionate anger. Woe to thee that looks upon the world and is sad or dissatisfied with what it has to offer. Woe to thee that blames his parents, doesn’t he know his single mom was a hero for raising him all by herself (with dad’s child support)?
Anyways. With society telling us to detach from those pesky emotions and follow the Greek Stoics, except when we shouldn’t with women, we have a lot of retraining to do.
I’m ready to dig deep into that pit of pain.
May 31 2012 20:32 pm
Stingray
Did you read any of the Greek Stoics, Leap? I've only read a couple and that is some deep, deep . . . . stuff.
May 31, 2012 8:25 pm
yohami
Men that control their emotions are better suited to survive. A proper man, a strong and confident man, has to excel under stress, has to appear to make easy what is hard for everyone else. And then this man should have enough spare emotional energy to enjoy life and reap on the profits, and reproduce, and pass his legacy. Cue: the grumpy man doesnt cut it.
But the shortcut to master your emotions is having none.
Does it work? yeah. Short term it does. The wave of bullshit is coming? turn it off. You have an efervescence of bad feelings and anxiety surging inside and cant turn it off? shake it out. Put it out there. Hit stuff.
But this doesnt allow you to understand your own feelings / emotions, and, at the end, your emotions are the ones in charge, not your rational brain nor your skills. So if you’re not aware and dont have emotional intelligence, if you cant command and understand and feel, and your skills are limited to turn stuff off, block control repress and redirect, youre an EASY pray for emotional manipulators.
Guess whos manipulating you? Media. Society. Religions. Family. Friends. People. Relationships. Everyone. And your own emotions, that you dont control, are manipulating other people. It’s a dark game played behind curtains and the most evident sign is what happens when you question it all.
It’s not the rational mind what’s blocking you. It’s not a logical puzzle. Question your life right now. The country, the city, the friends, your god, your pillars, and say: it’s all bullshit. Cancel your story. Take your most sacred belief and question it. Can you? or something inside shakes away from it?
What you cant handle you dont own. It owns you. You’re it’s bitch. And how exactly did you get into this position, where you respond to something and are unable to question, but you go with it. When exactly did you agree to be something else’s bitch? when did you surrender? do you remember? what if you hadnt?
But I might be getting in too deep again.
And. Women. You would think that since women are not taught to repress their emotions they are better off. But, no, since women are protected and treated like children and get a free pass and have other people to take on the consequences for them…. no. They have access to a wider range of emotions, but one that is also out of touch with reality, so it’s also a meaningless limbo / mess of preferences and unsorted waves of sensorial, minute bullshit. Sorry. Emotions for their own sake are not enlightment.
Intelligence is the ability to solve problems. The communication with reality and the know-how define it.
You have one gender with contact with reality but no emotional lexicon. And the other gender with emotional lexicon but no contact with reality.
And then we’re all manipulated through fear.
Whe’re are we again?
June 1, 2012 1:57 am
Leap of a Beta
@ Stingray
I tried to read a couple of them once…. Early in college. I wasn’t equipped to handle it at that time. So instead in my theatre history classes, along with the liberal arts classes my college required, it seems as if I was taught from the shadow of the Greek giants of philosophy and stoicism without daring to enter Plato’s cave. And so they’re now on my current reading list – along side some of the great philosophers. Which are going to start right after I finish reading Strauss’s “The Game” along with keeping up with my daily ‘Sphere reading, Gettin better reading, and Reader Letters.
@ Yohami
Just going to briefly say Yohami, that you wonderfully got to the heart of what I was trying to say and went deeper with it. Bravo, I love it. Gonna go jump into the comment thread on the new post.
June 1, 2012 2:27 am
Jennifer
This is where your philosophical side and gift somes in, Yohami. Well-done indeed.
June 1, 2012 4:55 am
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June 27, 2012 6:14 pm
Jake @Twitter Name
Hey Yohami,
New to your blog. I like your spin on inner game. Always been a fan of psychology, philosophy, skepticism, logic, hidden persuaders… etc. I’m familiar with gettinbetter.com. Read all her posts several times last fall before diving into the Manosphere. Since then I’ve read all of Roissy, Rollo, and god knows what else covering Red Pill philosophy. Upon discovering your posts here, I thought I might try returning for a moment to Shari’s site. I finally decided to actually call and speak with her.
Uuuh…
I instantly started crying. I cried like a big dumb homo… gotta work on my frame control… then again I was in the mood for it.
I was wondering, have you spoken to her? Her services are pretty steep ($180 an hour–about the same as a psychologist)
If you don’t mind my asking, that is. I was just interested about your take on gettinbetter since you’re the only other person I’ve seen reference the site. Especially to combine it with game.
Thanks for an awesome blog, guy!
June 27 2012 20:20 pm
yohami
I cried a lot while reading her stuff, so no doubt I would cry a lot if we talked. I exchanged a few emails with her... I might do the session as well. How is that working for you? is she good?
July 14, 2012 11:02 am
Jake @Twitter Name
I only called for the free consult. We talked for maybe 5-10 mins. A good psychologist (one that insurance companies DO cover) would test and gather information carefully before planting ideas in the patient’s head–for fear confabulating a nonexistent problem. She intuited, did some cold/warm reading, empathized, fished, and guaged my reactions more like a “psychic”. At one point she said “I think you’ve been depressed your whole life”. Which elicited some blubbering from me. Her articles seem to cover every single base known to psychology/relationships/attachment & Imago theories so it seems next to impossible to find someone it won’t apply to and yet we have the mythical “healthy” or “integrated” people as a goal. Her picture plus her use of the words “wellness”, “spirit”, and “holistic” are all New Age.
In the end, her info is all very precise and personal, but there’s so much of it that the Forer Effect still applies. I don’t know if this Integrated Recovery does any legitimate good as opposed to the current therapy leader CBT, but…
Yes, she genuinely believes in what she does.
No, she doesn’t appear to be a Miss Cleo
Yes, you will get emotional
Yes, she appears to be very good at what she does
and
Yes, it’s very tempting
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