I get what you’re saying, & have experienced it myself for sure, but the fact of the matter is, it’s Susan’s site, her mission & her forum – she can run it how she likes just as you can run Yohami.com. It annoys me that there are points I feel passionately about that can’t be debated there without her getting irrational, but really, that would be the case anywhere else too, so I just appreciate it for what it is, & hope to get into those other matters elsewhere.

Truth is, if my blog got that much traffic, I’d probably start censoring people that pissed me off too. Sad but true.

I commented at HUS about three times. Susan responded to my comments once. That was all the feedback I needed to know SW is several Coco Puffs short of a full bowl.

K, in my case, I got a throne there, the (now deleted)”Wisdom of Yohami” post, which was a nice massage for my ego.

And, back then the group of commentators was great, omegas alphas players mras girls feminists sluts prudes etc. All across the spectrum. It was a fun place.

I suppose I just read the posts and not the comments, so I missed all that.

You keep accusing women in the sphere, and people around you, of being narcissists. Projection?

Susan is no friend of men.

A lot of guys in the manosphere ended up here because of the pure injustice in what is going on: not only are betas shut out of the sexual market, but they also get the bill for it through government wealth transfers. Once a guy takes the red pill, he’s justifiably pissed about what’s going on.

Women don’t think in terms of justice. (As Heartiste said in a blog post today, “Most women are self-absorbed by nature; it comes with the territory when you are, biologically and hence psychologically, the more valuable sex. This is why women should never have been given the vote; when the world revolves around you, it’s not a huge rationalization leap to decide that the world owes you lots of gimmedats.”)

Accordingly, Susan doesn’t think about justice. Her blog is about giving (sometimes poor, sometimes good) advice to women on how to ride the cock carousel in their twenties and then jump off it right in time to find a beta before they become cat ladies. Susan managed to pull it off, but it’s a risky strategy… and because SO MANY women are trying to use the same strategy and the number of “upper betas” that appear to thirty-year-old girls is declining due to shifts in our culture and economy, it’s destined to become an even worse mating strategy. And the men involved don’t even have a choice in the matter: at least the women in our culture are making a CHOICE to ride the carousel. They have a choice. The men don’t. Susan is wholly unconcerned about the sheer injustice that men face. As she honestly points out, her blog isn’t about justice. It’s about helping women ride the carousel.

Sooner or later, this will turn around. There will be a whole generation of feminist-inspired cat ladies going forward.

I also agree with Bronan that it’s an echo chamber of hamster fallacies.

May I play devil’s advocate for a moment?

As men, when you learn about game, is it shameful for you to learn of your true nature’s? I realize how difficult (as much as I can empathize from a woman’s perspective) it must be to learn of your learned beta behavior’s and how difficult it must be to change that. But when you learn what it is to be Man, at your core, is it shameful?

I ask, because women learning about their own true nature, at first is shameful. It is not easy to move past, but acceptance can come. The other side of that shame is that, instead of moving on to acceptance, is to push the knowledge out and focus on something else. In this case, the focus has shifted to cads and their danger to women. The big problem is that, in the long run, the women she is trying to help (and the men they end up with) are going to be very hurt.

Deti,

Very well done. That is my point. Men have been put in a horrible place of shame and are working their way out (it’s admirable. Any woman who tell you otherwise is scared).

Women are put in this place of assumed respect (see Rollo’s latest) and then learn of what can be very easily seen as a shameful true nature. It’s terrifying on many levels to see the truth in this. While it is obviously wrong, it is terribly easy to try to shame men for their true nature’s to try to bring back the balance (or to try to maintain the upper hand).

I’m not trying to say that men or women have it easier in any of this. It is better to start from a place of shame and then see one’s true power or is it better to start from a place of power and then see the shamefulness of one’s nature? I don’t know.

Stingray:

I’m much more ashamed (and fearful) of women’s true natures. These feral female characteristics are not discussed at HUS.

1. At their basest, women are cruel, petty, and vindictive — both to other women and to men. I have seen a woman with her words literally cut a man’s heart out of his chest, throw it on the ground and stomp on it repeatedly — in public.

Women have a capacity for verbal cruelty to others that I have yet to see any man match. They seem to reserve their worst cruelty for their husbands.

2. It is not true that women are innately good, pure, and noble. Women have a capacity for human sin just as men do.

3. Given the right circumstances, the right man, the right time, and low risk of detection, many (if not most) women will cheat on their husbands. Most women in the past have “cheated” on a boyfriend. And it is much easier for a woman to conceal her cheating than it is for a man to conceal his.

4. Women want rough, vigorous sex. Most don’t like candlelight, romantic sex, at least not most of the time. Most women really get off on vigorous sex.

5. When it comes to sex, nearly all women want to be dominated by a strong man. Women want to be told what to do, when to do it and how to do it in the bedroom.

6. Women act ruthlessly in their own self interest. If a woman deems it to be to her advantage, she is fully capable of shading the truth, lying, obfuscation, fraud, deceit, manipulation, cunning, and more.

Feminism keeps these truths from men, who need to hear them. I’m going to shout them from the rooftops.

Stingray:

I think it makes some sense.

Accepting these truths about women, and that unrestrained hypergamy unleashed these behaviors on our society, has been the toughest part of getting the red pill down.

I spent the first 40 years of my life hearing almost every woman in my life telling me that women are gentle and good; they need to be treated gently; they needed soft, romantic sex; and if I’m not giving them that, then I’m a failure as a man.

What a painful revelation it has been to see woman after woman talk about how jackhammering turns them on; how some of them love being turned ass up and rawdogged. Admitting to fantasies of multiple partner sex. Story after story of marriages upended by “I’m not haaaaappy” divorce after 10 years or more.

When my wife told me she wasn’t physically attracted to me, all it took to turn things around for us was my threatening to walk. I was prepared to do it, too, regardless of the cost. All I had to do was stand up for myself a little. All I had to do was push back a little, and that was enough to tip the scales back to my advantage. I have hand now.

Sorry about all the typos and the rambling. Killer sinus headache today and it is making it very difficult to think clearly.

Hollen, you’re describing a narcissist / BPD there, not just women. Believe me, I used to conflate the two. Most of these women ARE narcissists.

But women know shame very well. And guilt. It’s just not based on an abstract sense of justice, since that’s men’s ladder. It’s based on personal and group value. Shame get’s triggered when they get rejected from a group, and guilt is triggered when they do something that decreases their value. And they feel / assume these emotions to be final. Like they could kill and never be washed away. It’s powerful stuff.

Hollen, forget about ethereal justice in women.

When a woman makes a mistake that costs her greatly, something that decreases her value, or something that has bad repercussion for her group, she feels guilt.

Not because she murdered some abstract ideal. But because what she did had bad repercussions on the emotional world, which is where she lives on.

Women dont live on the abstract ideal world as men do, so this “justice” is meaningless. Stuff is either good or bad for her and her group. If she does somethings that ends up being bad, it’s like a mark. I’ve seen those before but I didnt recognize them, they didnt fit on my ideal of guilt/justice and then it didnt fit on me viewing all women as narcissists. But the guilt is there, just in a different circuit.

On the other hand a man can kill his own tribe and group and blow up a country and be guilt-free if he thinks he did the right thing? very sociopathic. The woman will be guilt-free if she didnt trigger negative emotions on the ones she cares about. Or guilt fueled if she does.

STingray:

“I am curious though, now that you know that these things are part of what a woman inherently is, is it still painful? I realize that you were told these things would still be quite painful, but the things in your list itself (hypergamy, jack hammering sex, submission, etc.) are they painful now that you understand them?”

Hell yes, it still hurts. Wasted time, money and investment given to unworthy, undeserving women. Knowing your own mother and sisters lied to you and failed to tell you anything useful about women. Knowing your own father didn’t and couldn’t teach you, because he was a mangina white knight. Knowing your own wife is capable of lying to your face, and then knowing she did lie to you. Knowing that almost no amount of contrition can erase it. Wondering what else she lied to you about. Fighting about it. Knowing her pair bonding ability is severely damaged if not destroyed, by her own hand. Her own inability to understand that her own past behavior might have future deleterious effects. (I’m starting to believe TFH is right when he says women don’t understand cause and effect very well, at least when it comes to sex and relationships.) The realization that some women fucked you just because they wanted to fuck you. The realization that some women fucked you just because they wanted commitment from you. The realization that some women sportfuck; and nearly all women have sportfucked at some time in their lives.

I know too much now. I can never, ever go back to the way it was. I have to live with what I know now.

“. I remember once she even congratulated Rivelino when he was able to score commitment-free sex to break a dry spell.
I don’t think she’d do that today…”

That’s the cleaning-up act I’m talking about. But she needs to cease saying the same things to women.

“I am not ashamed that I want to bang half the women I see”

Of course not, that wouldn’t be alpha.

“Men have been put in a horrible place of shame and are working their way out”

Stingray, wanting to trade up and wanting to bang other people when you’re married, are things people should control with proper humility for crying out loud. This whole attitude of “just have sex, be with bad boys, be commitment-free whether you’re man or woman” is pathetic weakling attitudes. Mature manhood and womanhood requires restraint and discipline, even of our thoughts.

“To women in relationships, there is no “right and wrong”; there is only “what I want and what I don’t want.”

Yes, while today’s men are all honorable.

“men’s true nature’s are so hidden away right now that I cannot see a society where they run rampant to be able to compare them to”

Um, Afghanistan? South Africa? The lowest of American areas? Suuure, men have nothing ever to be ashamed of.

“A man decides on a course of conduct. He says to himself:

“I want to do this. I know it’s wrong, but I will live with the consequences.”

A woman decides on a course of conduct. She says to herself:

“I want to do this. Therefore, it is not wrong.”

Eve actually took more blame than Adam.

“I know I am going to get slammed for this, but here goes . . . Is it a lie when they believe it themselves?”

I was thinking the same; the mom’s from another generation, the sisters may be that way themselves.

“Women are simply pissed that our power is not overt, like a man’s.”

It is now; it wasn’t nearly as often in the past.

Sting, you simplify or mass-group a lot of things into one category. Men and women are biologically wired to have multiple partners, but emotionally it’s far more natural (and healthy for society) to be monogamous. Likewise, we function better when we follow a moral code, and as a Christian, I believe this is coded in our souls; problem is, the flesh overrides the soul pretty often, and we now have women encouraged to follow the flesh AND inflate selfish urges. Not all women want to be told what to do; some do wish for direct power and leadership, some prefer gentler sex than jackhammering. But this society does two things: it encourages us to not only follow our biological and even mentally selfish urges, but to inflate such things to drastic levels. It’s a natural biological urge to want sex with someone you’re attracted to even if there’s not love. It is not natural for many, however, to be into S&M; I’ve had loose sexual urges, but have never been anything but chilled by the idea of having physical pain inflicted on me. Even our lower natural urges are different and have different levels of potential harm to them, but society wants to bring these ALL out. So there are men sleeping around, even if they’re not naturally your typical selfish bastard with sociopathic self-interest, like Roissy, or narcissistic attention whores, like Tucker Max. And there are women spouting Gloria Steinem party lines, even if they’d just as soon be sitting in front of a fire with their hardworking husbands. If men and women weren’t restrained with morality, sure, they’d doubtless sleep around before marriage, but possibly a lot less than they are currently. And divorce? The power-shift has enabled women to use it easily, so they have, but the number of sources ENCOURAGING women to divorce has raised the number of divorces probably twice as much. Likewise, you have straight young adults experimenting with homosexual activities that they’re probably not even really wired for. Our culture is encouraging wild activities, from loose sex to body impaling, right now. We need to return to being a Christian culture, with men being encouraged to lead and women being encouraged to use their strengths for moral causes. Men and women need to be made aware of both their natural but not beneficial urges, and the more unnatural and harmful urges that some of them have, and know how to handle such things without either self-hatred or enabling, simultaneously knowing how to tell the difference between them.

Mike, women must feel some real love to be able to make commitments. But they also must make the rational decision, and how good they are at this depends on their individual character. Your best bet is to choose a woman of serious faith.

Jennifer,

I suspect we could get really philosophical about what is “real love”. I’m not Christian, but if you think about Jesus dying on the cross it was a decision, a conscious choice. And that was a manifestation of his love for mankind. I doubt he got “swept away” in the moment of the crucifixion.

So there are different types of love. I think the female tendency (yes NAWALT) is to think of love in terms of romantic love….in terms of her emotions taking control of her. You see that in the language… of romance novels/aka female porn. Not so much about the conscious decision/commitment part.

I’m not sure if your last sentence was advice to me personally, but I’ve already chosen. I”m pretty sure I’ve made a good choice.

Jennifer,

To be clear, I don’t think men’s or women’s true nature are anything at all to be ashamed about. They are what they are and there is nothing we can do change that. As Yahomi said in another post, you might as well say you are not hungry as to change one’s sexual nature.

However, what people should be proud of or ashamed of is how they react to the these natures. We may not be able to control to whom we are attracted to or why, but we can sure as hell control our actions. This is where the guilt and shame come into play and these days, women have a lot of actions to answer for (generally speaking )

*Yes, many men do as well. But the number of women running rampant vs. the number of cads is vastly different.

Jennifer,

One would hope, yes. But, unfortunately, should never got anyone anywhere. That is why I like game so much. It can help a man turn that should into will.

Now we just gotta get women on the bandwagon as well. Women need to start working just at hard at marriage and relationships as well. I truly hope the number of women doing this is at least close the men finding game. Though I haven’t seen the evidence of it yet.

Jennifer,

I agree with you. However, I see game as much more than what you wrote. For many it is that, but it is also a jumping off point. I think many men are taking it further and deeper. I hope the trend continues.

Hey, welcome from crack world.

Yeah, you didnt have an issue nor a disagreement with her. If I remember well you were talking, about changing the frame from entitlement to feminine-submissiveness, but the kind that leads the man by inviting him to embrace his masculinity. So you play your role so he plays his, instead of you filling the leadership void.

Some other gal, a troll, labeled that as something else. Then some other troll said “women must repent from feminists sins” and somehow you ended being the flag of all that nonsense. And JM would jump from time to time to tell you how ugly it was that you hooked up. And someone else would make it about the horrible friends you had. Bitch fest.

What killed it for me was a Susan’s phrase along the lines of “I love Olive and she’s welcome here, but her views wont be tolerated”. And, “as the owner of HUS I must – blah blah blah”. Owner uh. Some serious ego trip there.

I mean. Really? on the same place where Tom, Abbot and Jess rant forever, your views about female frame wont be tolerated?

Oh boy. Im laughing.

Anyway. Hows your brain these days?

Jennifer,

We probably have some common ideas…I actually am a believer in the concept of duty, but if it isn’t reciprocated than the dutiful person is just being a fool. That said, as a non-Christian I probably cannot relate to much of what you value.

I am curious though…given your worldviews and beliefs what do you hope to gain or take away from your participation and commenting in the manosphere. I’m not trying to chase you away, but I am genuinely curious what your motivation is

Glad to hear, Yohami.

Mike, I rarely hang around the manosphere anymore; sometimes I agree with parts of it, for a while I wished to share my own views. Usually now I visit a link out of curiousity if it’s on a site I frequent. In general, I hope to encourage people towards God again.

“It all sort of goes back to penis envy doesn’t it? Women can’t have what you have, so let’s take it away. When in reality, I think a woman’s honor should stem from supporting a man’s masculinity. Propping it up even further. Women are meant to be covert supporter’s.”

Rare honesty from a woman.

This is all you need to know about Aunt Giggles and Hooking Up Betas

Ah!

When outsiders or people new to the Manosphere get here, one of the first places many find is HUS (or at least it used to be that way a year ago). No one except Roissy gets anything like her traffic. An average HUS thread is good for a dependable 400 to 500 comments, albeit from the usual 30 to 40 regulars. It’s enough to keep those threads going for days, up to a week in some instances. HUS is considered a heavy hitter, one of the top, most popular blogs.

I suspect this will come out in the wash, since it’s pretty clear that most will conclude HUS is a site mainly for women now.

LOL

Everyone goes on and on about the Precious Egg and how “women” are the “more valuable sex” because of the “precious egg”.

So…. I suppose women after menopause have no precious egg, so they are the most useless and worthless members of society!

I know, your mind is even now screaming ABORT! ABORT! because I was so silly as to take what you say seriously.

I need to stop doing that.

Precious egg argument was always silly.

Fantastic conversation, bummed that I missed it. I’m proud to say I only lasted two comments before permanent HUSsie ban.

Susan Walsh is a cautionary tale. When a woman hits menopause her hamster zombifies. Her biological purpose has ended but lives on in an undead state. The result is horrific mercurial mood swings that infect the sturdiest of female intellects.

Now add to it her proudly beta husband feeding that monstrosity, and give her the kind of big-number but millimeter-deep adulation that only the internet can provide, and you have a prescription for deep, self-reinforcing neurosis.

She is involving indeed. A sad spectacle of a woman flailing impotently against her mortality. I do look upon her as an aunt or grandmother and think, she is among the forgotten cohort of the sexual revolution, the ones most at risk for insanity, and yet the last ones who will be given the therapy they need, the final victims of the feminist inversion.

To think she is giving young women advice is disturbing. She is attempting to fill a hole in the post-sexual revolution mentoring atmosphere — getting today’s girls prepared for the mighty backlash — which is admirable and necessary. Only she is filling their impressionable heads with dried-ovarian “wisdom” that will have random results on her experiment subjects.

Matt

Im very happy about this drama. Until I read about it, i never knew this blog existed, and I can see that this is a good blog worth reading regularly.

So, thanks Aunt Sue!

@krauser

“I never understood why men go on HUS. It’s a woman giving dating advice to women, for women. It was always about Team Woman. But for whatever reason you, Rollo, Rivelino and Dalrock were all talking about it, responding to it, taking it seriously. I literally scanned it once and filed it under “nothing to learn here”. Does it have some kind of extra public visibility in the US?”

i don’t remember the whole story, but i do remember coming across this post:

http://www.hookingupsmart.com/2011/03/21/relationshipstrategies/why-we-shit-test/

and being impressed by her honesty about women’s intrinsic need to shit test and manipulate men. read the story, it’s very good.

also, yohami dropped a lot of wisdom over there over the years. betas would ask questions, and he would answer. i think danny and deti would also comment there.

@retrenched

“I remember once she even congratulated Rivelino when he was able to score commitment-free sex to break a dry spell. I don’t think she’d do that today…”

yeah, the first controversy was over that, a bunch of the girls got pissed at her hypocrisy.

then again, ashleee got engaged recently, to a beta, and i was happy for her.

Wow, so THAT’S what happened over at HUS. Over the last few months, the few times I bothered dropping by (less and less since the late fall ’11), I’ve noticed a huge increase in beta men hanging around dropping their blue pill-flavored postings.

The women, as usual, are for the most part operating in their reality-free zone, so that isn’t too different. What a difference a few months make.

And as others have already pointed out, her blog is called “Hooking Up Smart”, not “Saving Yourself for Marriage” or “Avoiding the Alpha Cock Carousel”. It really is completely focused on getting the women the vast amounts of alpha sausage and hamster pellets that she desires, while still retaining the facade of SMV when she’s ready to settle down with some high-beta provider.

Notice the attacks lately on alphas as long-term partners. Remember her target audience is 1) her own hamster, and 2) her daughter and her peers. Basically, as driven by her own hamster wheel-spinning, she has to reconcile her cock-riding and settling down with a herb beta boy-man as the best possible outcome. Therefore, if that is the best possible outcome, her daughter must copy it as closely as humanly capable in today’s marriage and sex marketplace.

Jennifer,

I see that you advocate the return of men to the slave plantation. Sacrifice, protection, and so on? Really, it sounds like what the Army told me when they were trying to get me to enroll in a military branch.

Somehow, the possibility of getting my legs blown up for a Country that cares not for me seems like something to avoid. Likewise, as you’ve stated, women aren’t loyal to the men they marry or date, so it’d be silly of me to sacrifice the only life I have for women’s well-being.

I’m a 22 year old man who goes to college and sees women rampantly hook-up and what’s not. I have a high sex drive but I control it via the consumption of porn since the age of 13, which left me in a position of power far above that which most men can ever aspire to reach; I am immune to the sexual power of women.

At the early stages of my personal development as the next stage of male evolution, I’d look at attractive women and think to myself how, regardless of how good-looking she is, there’s always a man out there tired of putting up with her. That allied with how complicated, difficult, and expensive average-looking women are made me shrug off these sexual desires and dedicate myself to my hobbies.

Now, I’m entering the stage of indifference. I don’t talk to women outside of a need to do it(work/college), I don’t look at women and I pretend to not hear them when they are trying to get my attention to buy the stuff they’re selling and so forth.

Speaking of which, I do recall being on a train with my father when this attractive Afro-American young woman entered the train and positioned herself in front of me and began to expose her religious views. I know this because she had a religious pamphlet on her hand, but I had my ipod and I could hear nothing.

She stayed there for 5 seconds(my father later laughed as he was telling me that the young woman was there, stunned, in front of me and completely shocked at being ignored) whereas I was completely oblivious to her existence.

I reckon, since most women only manage to see most men when they need or want something from them, it’d be fair to give women a fair shot at equality.

Do I hate women? Nope. Am I bitter? Not really. I’ve been dumped for Alpha males without even getting sex while in a relationship with them, but I’m a logical man and I figured it is women’s nature(and the three women who did this to me ranged from below average looking to average looking, all of them were highly religious and properly raised by their parents) to be like this.

I did ponder a bit on how high value women can instantly turn a good thing from a decent-looking guy(average height, and build and so forth) for the chance of being pumped and dumped by the Alpha male(granted, they probably weren’t interested in being Pumped and dumped, but they’d have to have a vague idea that it could’ve happen, which actually did) but my emotions are under the control of my brain, always.

I believe that a combination of being raised in a religious community where most women spend their days spending their husbands money, cheating on their husbands and not putting out for them, and the factor of young women having far more sexual partners before the age of 20(without even considering the casual sex/BJ/HJ that many, many women give out for free for Alpha males/Cads/Players) has made me the perfect embodiment of what is to come to the Western world; the white grass-eater from Japan.

Feminism and the unleashing of women’s true nature MIGHT seem harmful for most men, but I believe that according to nature, only those who can adapt have the right to life, and as most men aged 35 plus are slaves to the system, most of the young men below the age of 30 have been raised on a diet of porn and can never look back at women as ”girlfriends and wives” material, many aren’t even bothering with trying to get laid.

Bottom line is that it is impossible to reach a balanced consensus with women or with white knights. The Susan Walsh kin tries to force the belief that most women were forced by our society to become sluts, or that they never had a dad’s love(because he invariably was a loser)or that the guy seemed like such a nice guy, it was only after banging him casually for 6 months straight that she realized he wasn’t father and husband material.

Also, they want to make the average male accept women’s sexual numbers and sexual nature and to wife it up, as if spoiled goods are worthy of enslavement. Not that I’d marry or date a virgin, for that sort of enslavement is only slightly bettered by knowing that no other guy sampled the goods without paying for it.

I’m sorry, but I rather enjoy being std-free, having no college debt(surprising what having family in Europe can do for your bank statement), no car payments(I prefer to walk, thank you very much), no child-support to pay nor any alimony.

I also do not spend money on cellphones(still have the same credit on my phone, the one I had… 1 year ago), I don’t pay for dinners or dates, nor do I go dutch on it, I don’t have to worry about the prices of condoms, I don’t have to concern myself with the possibility of the condom breaking..

I don’t have to worry about what kind of job I’m going to have. Most of the women I met before I became en-lighted would always ask me about that.

”What do you want to do?”

”I want to become an artist.”

”But that doesn’t make much money…”

A week later they’d be banging druggie Alpha males, the sort that sleeps under the bridge but always manage to look good, all thanks to the hospitality of the women they’re banging.

Then we have the religious crowd, those who’d worship Osiris or Jupiter had they been born thousands of years ago but want to make me swallow their own version of divinity. I am not interested in the mythology of Jesus Christ, I am not tempted into the veneration of the Virgin Mary(am I the only one who thinks that Christianity began because a 15 year old girl banged a Bad boy and didn’t want to get stoned for it?)

I am a young man, that much is true, but I have an evolutionary advantage over the majority of men. I learn by observation. I let the other men make the mistakes before I do them, enriching my life without having to show scars for it.

I’ve learned that religious women only differ from most feminized women by their sexual numbers(although, when I was grudgingly pushed to attend the Church I’d see young girls dressed like sluts and parading their bad boys and Alpha males in a female competition to discern who had the highest status ” mate”.) and their slightly superior intelligence.

You see, the liberated, empowered women, are intoxicated by their power over male sexuality. They make it their right and their agenda to chastise the average man by jumping from Alpha male to Alpha male until their 30′s, the decade which sees women put a beta male down to pay for her children.

Whereas most of the religious women learned from their mothers and grandmothers that men in their 30′s aren’t as pliable and controllable as the 18 year old bloke who can’t receive the summer’s breeze on his face without suffering an unbreakable erection. Women try to control men via men’s sexual desire and in most cases they manage to do it, but the methods vary; the religious women chant for a return to male lemmings, you know, that cute little creature that throws itself from a cliff because you tell it to do it?

Likewise, women, religious women, expect to trade their virginity(something so rare today that most men can’t even conceive the scenario of a reasonably decent-looking woman with 0 sexual number partners) for; protection, financial support, children, adoration, elevation of their status from mortal women to the brides of Jesus Christ, and they want to maintain the thinly disguised exclusionary veil of ”good women” in correlation to the high expectations they have of men.

Heh, no. It doesn’t work that way. Modern women claim only Alpha males are real men for they have the height/looks/hair/teeth/muscles to off-shot most men into a life of celibacy, but religious women only give the depraved title of ”real man” to the men who put themselves at the foot of the familiarly ladder and puts women and their children on the very top of it.

The essence of the collapsible of the western civilization lies not in our crushed economy but in the clarification of the mind of the average white/black young man. We are without our blinders and we aren’t interested in giving even one inch of our happiness away for the sake of women and for what women want or need or imagine would be good for them.

You see this in the massively growing numbers of young men suffering from Porn-induced erectile dysfunction. That, or our bodies are protecting us from the hell of marriage and child support. The other half(or maybe the part that complements the fans of porn) spends hours upon daily hours on skyrim and on League of Legends.

And so, the gender war between young women trying to make men to be dumb, and young men trying to get free sex isn’t going to fix itself because men, the men who honestly matter, the young ones, are saying.

No, Ma’am, we don’t need another Stalin.

So are you still banned from HUS? and why did she ban you?

I thought you were her hero…

apparently I was banned as well- but Ive no idea why

Michael- brilliantly written and you are likely correct about women natural carnality (which is no better nor worse than mens imo) but many women want a nice guy to settle down with that they want to cherish and care for – so I kinda hope some girl proves you a bit wrong someday…

This is typical BPD behaviour, though it’s filtered through the medium of the Internet; it’s impossible to make a judgment about Susan herself based upon this one aspect of her character. This is an atypical environment she’s acting in, after all.

I wanted to address something about BPD however; let’s imagine that you stick around on HUS, and chart the landmines, and act like a Good Little Boy. It’s inevitable that you’ll start trying to see a pattern to the land mines, trying to understand the reasoning and logic behind them.

As you correctly pointed out, there is none; these landmines are intentional fights initiated by Susan to train you into obedience. By positing intention where there’s only chaos, you begin spiralling into insanity. Over time the landmines will change places. Oh, sure, there’s a pattern – if you examine it from a psycho/trauma perspective (they’ll mainly be related to things she feels nervous about), but there’s no LOGIC to them. By trying to posit logic out of chaos, you spin into relativism and insanity, and make Susan the ultimate arbiter of Truth; she has the secret decoder ring, and when you fail to understand it you’re evil.

On a blog this is just annoying; but with a real life BPD this can become extremely dangerous. I speak from experience.