03 Oct 2011, Posted by yohami in game,politics,thoughts, 12 Comments.

Face value, genes, beta, alphaness, ladder, game etc.


We measure other people superficiality and take most things at face value.

If a singer makes me cry, by projecting his voice really good and giving each phrase a certain feel and articulating and projecting emotion and makes the whole thing flow effortless, I dont really give a fuck if he is a “natural” or if he took singing lessons for 20 years.

If someone comes saying “hey but this person is a fake singer! he took lessons! he wasnt born with this gift!” It would be sort of a bullshit, right? because lessons, technique, can only bring what was already there. If the guy had to take 20 years of lessons to bring his potential up and turn a carbon into a diamond, hey, I applaud his perseverance, and I would say that perseverance is a plus to the whole thing.

So.

Lets say we are in a society where singing has been mostly banned. That would mean I dont hear singers who make me cry very often. Does that mean the potential of singing is now gone from the population? Nope.

So.

We live in a society which has tamed most men into betas. Does that mean every man is a natural born beta? Nope. Does that mean men cant explore and develop leadership / dominant traits? nope.

I dont even know if there is a “beta gene”. I think most men can develop alphaness to a certain degree, just like most people can learn to sing. I think its about interest and drive, and of course natural potential. But most men are so, so far from what they would be naturally be doing if they hadnt been brainwashed into forced betaness, that just a couple of touches here and there can go a long way.

So, its not that Game changes the DNA of beta guys. Its that society is molding guys in dissonance with their own DNA, and something is needed to realign those guys into properly displaying their genotype and use what they have got for their own benefit.

You know, when you know a guy who is comfortable in his own skin, has his life figured out, is content with himself, reassured, has resources to make his way, has goals, has a network of friends and people who respect him, and looks at life in a fun / positive / forward / bold / assertive way? you know that stuff is pretty attractive, right?

I believe thats as natural as a man can get and that everyone has it in them.

That opposed to being insecure, reactive, awkward, socially inadequate, with lack of own value, afraid of his own impulses, unskilled, uncertain about what he wants, dependent on other people´s validation…

I mean. Who the fuck is “genetically” awkward? who the fuck was born to have his / herself underdeveloped, unrealized, and dependent on society who tell you who the fuck you are? What we see in the word aint “beta genes” but beta brainwashing. And the dissonance it produces in people and the mental sickness and emotional voidness it produces in people, is what´s so unattractive.

More on the beta gene vs game vs everything:

Men are wired to compete against each other and form ladders. Women are more attracted to the males who do better on the ladder, and less attracted to the men who perform worse. The position on the ladder also alters and molds the men´s character, behavior, outlook, etc. So, at face value, women respond to these superficial attributes, as they reflect the men´s position in the ladder, and ultimately, they reflect the deep core true guy´s potential – genes. And this is pretty basic, instinctual, animal stuff.

But for this stuff to properly work, for women to be filtering and picking the right genes and guys to reproduce with, properly, the guys have to be *actually* competing and sorting themselves and the output / face value has to be real rather than forced.

Society is a hijack on human nature, and it splatters all kind of men all over the place. You´ll see the talented and the broken and the evil and the good, all misplaced, all over the place, all the traits dispersed, and all the power being about capital and media manipulation, and so little power where it really matters.

I find it funny and sad that the males on top are not longer the stronger / more adept, that the smarter are not the ones in charge of fixing stuff, that evil wins, that capital is the master. Society is “broken” from a biological point of view. Its like a sims game that has been rigged. So the attributes are disperse, some guys are playing A game, some are doing B game, some are clueless and going with the motions. The women´s game, at least, is clearer, maybe because its more self centered and less externally driven than men´s: women keep wanting whats best for them, attracting the best resources for them and keeping them, filtering the bad from the good and form strong communicational nodes where they can assert whats good and bad etc… while men are trying to fit themselves in a ladder that no longer serves a purpose, this “doing the right thing, even when the right thing is bad for myself” that men often do.

I think the ladder has been tampered and needs fixing. Like we need a total revolution in the ladder.

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October 3, 2011 6:49 pm

Gmac

Great analogy. It helps put things in better perspective for the game-deniers and women out there too.

Most skills (like game) can be learned with enough time, determination, and discipline.

It’s the types of guys who give up learning to play an instrument, learning a new language, or losing weight that just don’t have what it takes to develop a life skill into something mastered.

October 03 2011 18:52 pm

yohami

yes, exactly.

October 3, 2011 7:04 pm

Johnny Milfquest

Yohami, I also think this “mastery of a skill” issue ties in with your “Boys Don’t Cry” post about mastering the emotions.

I know that you gave some pointers back there, but maybe you could flesh out the “emotional mastery” subject matter a bit more for us in a future post?

Thanks.

October 03 2011 20:20 pm

yohami

Sure thing

October 3, 2011 11:11 pm

NomadicNeill

I believe all men have the ‘winner / alpha’ genes in them. (Well I’m sure there’s the 1% that doesn’t). Because men need to be able to reward themselves with feel good hormones and a sense of entitlement by moving up the ladder.

But I don’t think there is anything wrong with the ladder. It’s just that the ladder was made for a different time (like all humans).

The agricultural and industrial revolutions are accidents in a way… we were never meant to live like this.

What to change our society to fit our instincts (genes) or our instincts to fit society? There will always be conflict and friction between the two.

October 03 2011 23:17 pm

yohami

Change the society to fit the best of our instincts. I think we can make another revolution that is not by accident. The current schema of fake money / debt / mass brainwashing is not an accident either, it´s been planned and executed, so, it´s possible to act at that macro level.

October 4, 2011 9:58 am

Jack Arthur

Hello my friend,

I like this post a lot, and here I want to offer my perspective on this, for you to maybe enjoy.

A long time ago Western culture was hijacked (“revolutionized”) by an unhealthy, paranoid ideology which emphasized the source of man’s worth as something external to him.

The persons responsible were not philosophers, nor artists, but theologians, ideologues, academics, etc. They may be called “have-nots” on account of not really having anything to say, but instead only something to prove (women especially are good at feeling the difference between expressions of love and expressions of need).

Those kinds of people have been around forever, but it was only in the last 500 years that ideology (as opposed to mythology, or poetry) became our dominant social force.

On a larger social scale this meant the end of life itself as the recognized (and ultimately unknowable) precursor to man’s authority, and the beginning of conscious will (AKA memory) “leading” the way. Passion, vision, emotions, feeling (which come like thieves in the night) were replaced by conventionalization based on memory, ideology, preconception… attempts to control outcomes.

Eventually the revolution splintered and splintered (away from its initial progenation as lutheranism, calvanism etc) while of course maintaining the ‘grasping for one’s very own worth’ metaphysic that we see in the modern “beta male” (through the ‘enlightenment’ and materialistic view of the universe etc, etc, all placing man’s relative worth as something alien to him and requiring ‘effort’ and ‘progress’).

In large part, we have since gotten rid of the ‘fire and brimstone’ and all the rest of the religious-poetic imagery, and perhaps you can see why this was an inevitability in an age where people are conned at such a young age to begin groping fiercely after their very own security. It imbues their struggle with too much significance.

Nevertheless, we’ve kept the puritan metaphysic, only having dispersed our idols into thousands of little distractions of varying importance, still with the overarching goal of securing and controlling ourselves toward a ‘secure place’ that remains, inevitably, a burden and an illusion.

The effective result is the burdening of youth with an extended ‘adolescent period’ during which they are loaded with enormous amounts of baggage in the form of conventions/conceptions that are made out to be more important than life, while their inner feelings, passions and drives are treated as distractions in the effort to continually earn their very own worth.

In short, I think that “beta” is a recent phenomenon that is relative to the lengthening adolescent period of young males (and over the last 30 or so years, females too, as both are drawn away from their natural polarity and toward gender neutrality, such being the nature of a life lead by conventions).

So I agree and like your post but be careful because the ladder is not real and only conjecture that can be acknowledged as illusion at any time. Beta is only beta inside the mind of the beta. Alpha is not alpha by contingency (beating the beta on the ladder) but by being beyond judgment from the very beginning.

Jack

October 4, 2011 10:09 am

Jack Arthur

… of course men still need to win and achieve and this requires external goals, and attempts to prove oneself.

But let’s not race so hard and so fast that we forget that what we’re seeking is ourselves, and that this dance is truly and profoundly unserious. It is with grace and relaxation in the core that we may allow the full spectrum of our personalities – uninterrupted by wild grasps at invisible ladder rungs – to breathe, to come forward, to live, etc

October 14, 2011 6:09 am

ML

Blah, blah, blah.

My head appears caved on one side. My teeth are yellowish. There’s an old red pimple scar on the tip of my nose. My ears protrude, my legs are visibly too short for my torso, and my chin is weak relative to my face. My face is always greasy. I’m only 5’8″. My head is roundish, so my facial hair (nearly black) makes my face just look fat if I do not trim it obsessively in minute detail. No matter how little I eat (down to 1000 cals now), how many sit-ups I do or how far & hard I walk or run, I maintain pudgy obliques that give me a belly dancer’s body. I am built like a Neanderthal.

There’s a whole bundle of awkward fucking genes for you, pretty boy. Don’t fucking tell me all this can be converted to alphahood. I was made to throw spears and kill rival tribesmen, not navigate the subtle choreography of a woman’s displeasure.

Bitches ought to be in chains.

October 14 2011 06:22 am

yohami

Alpha is not about being pretty, jackass

http://www.lossoprano.tv/images/mafia/personajes/capone1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_qgjBSMm31eQ/S-sBGkrNQtI/AAAAAAAAAlM/4geOoS7Ar_0/s1600/al_capone_double.jpg
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkmee83zF71qjg1reo1_250.jpg
http://www.aimdigital.com.ar/aim/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/abraham-lincoln-283208.jpg

The "no matter how much I do X I get no results" is bullshit btw.

If you want to lose fat try intermittent fasting

http://www.leangains.com/2010/04/leangains-guide.html

October 18, 2011 3:22 am

Jennifer

“In short, I think that “beta” is a recent phenomenon that is relative to the lengthening adolescent period of young males”

Actually, certain kinds of alpha are prolonged puberty too: just f*cking.

Great post.

October 29, 2011 6:27 pm

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